Comments on: Expect Java Use to Grow in Web 2.0 Projects http://wattf.com/wp/2008/04/03/expect-java-use-to-growth-in-web-20-projects/ {It's Safer to be Risky} Sat, 05 Feb 2011 23:11:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Jesse http://wattf.com/wp/2008/04/03/expect-java-use-to-growth-in-web-20-projects/comment-page-1/#comment-32 Jesse Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:41:17 +0000 http://wattf.com/wp/2008/04/03/expect-java-use-to-growth-in-web-20-projects/#comment-32 Hrm. Not sure I agree with you as to why Java or C# stuff isn't 'popular.' Yes it's mainly corporate but not because ISP's won't advertise you can use it. I think it the large IT governance infrastructure that is built around Java and C# that makes it friendly to corporations. PHP has some of that with Zend products (Yahoo likes its PHP) and Ruby has tools too... but nothing those that live in a corporate bureaucracy understand. The limitation in PHP and Ruby (and others) development is how people use them vs java and C#. The 'scripting' languages build monolithic applications that do it all in a mess of uncompilable code while Java and C# folks learned some time ago that building a cluster of services or objects feeding a larger application saves you tears. Compiling it in parts. If anything SOA will become more common place and multi-lingual apps as XML layer does not care. I like your baby duck analogy though... so true ;) You need a bigger reply box too... If this makes sense I will be shocked. Hrm. Not sure I agree with you as to why Java or C# stuff isn’t ‘popular.’ Yes it’s mainly corporate but not because ISP’s won’t advertise you can use it. I think it the large IT governance infrastructure that is built around Java and C# that makes it friendly to corporations. PHP has some of that with Zend products (Yahoo likes its PHP) and Ruby has tools too… but nothing those that live in a corporate bureaucracy understand.

The limitation in PHP and Ruby (and others) development is how people use them vs java and C#. The ’scripting’ languages build monolithic applications that do it all in a mess of uncompilable code while Java and C# folks learned some time ago that building a cluster of services or objects feeding a larger application saves you tears. Compiling it in parts. If anything SOA will become more common place and multi-lingual apps as XML layer does not care.

I like your baby duck analogy though… so true ;) You need a bigger reply box too… If this makes sense I will be shocked.

]]> By: Aaron http://wattf.com/wp/2008/04/03/expect-java-use-to-growth-in-web-20-projects/comment-page-1/#comment-31 Aaron Thu, 03 Apr 2008 15:29:14 +0000 http://wattf.com/wp/2008/04/03/expect-java-use-to-growth-in-web-20-projects/#comment-31 Agreed, but maybe I'm biased? My path to Web 2.0 follows the arc you've laid out. On your multi-lingual comment: I recently went rant-crazy because a developer refused to consider projects outside a particular stack. Man, that rubs me the wrong way. Agreed, but maybe I’m biased? My path to Web 2.0 follows the arc you’ve laid out. On your multi-lingual comment: I recently went rant-crazy because a developer refused to consider projects outside a particular stack. Man, that rubs me the wrong way.

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